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Post by morningstar on Feb 26, 2008 18:37:10 GMT -5
Okay...let's bend our minds a bit, shall we? ;D What's one of the questions that no one has been able to give a definative answer to - the one we've all asked and given ourselves anxiety attacks over... ... What lies beyond our known Universe? I read once that if you could travel through space, as far as you can go, you'd end up back where you started...that's some crazy detour. We live in a four dimensional state...one of which is time (which is a whole other crazy discussion ) - but, where does this dimension of time/space end...and if what some say is true - that our Universe is constantly expanding...what is it expanding into - some say an infinite NOTHINGNESS...a place where time itself ceases to exist...hmmmm...sounding familiar? I suppose it leads us to questions which are impossible to fully answer from a physical perspective...because what lies beyond the known...and beyond that...etc times infinity - is something which touches on the more spiritual side of our natures, and perhaps that is the way in which we will eventually grasp it all. What are your thoughts/feelings/beliefs? Is there something within us, on a soul level, that inherently 'knows' the answer? I could post alot of stuff/info I've googled on this subject - but none of it presents any concrete facts...soooooo....what does your inner self tell you?
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Post by Frater G on Feb 26, 2008 23:16:10 GMT -5
That concept has been compared to a balloon theory. The universe being likened to an expanding balloon. That makes sense to me because I believe there is no such thing as an absolute vacuum. Dark matter is in greater proportion. Can there really be nothingness?...spirit fills first matter. I think on the edge of the universe is the gateway to the other side. Where the infinitely small and the grandiose are the same. It would be the singularity of our mind.
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Post by elijah on Feb 27, 2008 2:22:22 GMT -5
Beyond the universe is where the imagination sleeps. Why have an anxiety attack over something so placid? The universe is constantly expanding becasue we think it is. To a dog the universe does not exist -- the dog the universe. IMHO There are too many words used to discuss nothing which makes it turn into something and that is too complicated for something so elementary as nothing. Like the shock wave which propells the pellet from a BB gun, it becomes nothing when it has dissipated. "What are your thoughts/feelings/beliefs? Is there something within us, on a soul level, that inherently 'knows' the answer?" I actually don't know what my feelings and beliefs are, becasue when I consider them there is absolutely nothing there to think about.
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Post by morningstar on Feb 27, 2008 7:07:18 GMT -5
I see this very differently. In my conception it is the place in which our 'imagination' is completely AWAKE/ALIVE/FREE. Perhaps the place which we awaken to... At first glance "nothing' seems an elementary concept...but viewed from our current physical state - how can there be NOTHING? On the other end of the scale ... how can INFINITY exist? Many years ago these were questions which troubled me greatly...until someone came along and put my mind at ease...(Let go - let it be) - perhaps we must allow these answers to unfold as they are meant to? That opens a whole philisophical discussion of it's own. It seems that it is all relative to our own personal experience then...part of the illusion... I understand the irony of your statement... - but through your own eloquence you have proven there is something after all... I have read about the balloon theory...yes, it helps to put it into a scale which can be better understood. I think the gateway to the other side is 'right in front of us' - with us all the time - yet seems so very distant from our current perspective...In our physical bodies it is an eternity away...from a spiritual perspective, it is where we already are...
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Post by elijah on Feb 27, 2008 13:38:31 GMT -5
You asked "What lies beyond our known Universe?" Maybe that is where an imagination could come alive, awake and free but then it would not be beyond the universe but still within a universe whether it is our semi-known and understood realm or that of some other universe. I think there is nothing beyond the universe and that the imagination is stilled there becasue once you allow that freedom to roam, there is not nothing but something and therefore, for the sake of argument, that must still be a Universe. As for the rest I reserve comment ;D
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