Transcendental Meditation

[George the 3rd]

Oct 14, 2009 22:44:41 GMT -5 vajramukti said:

So, you are saying that gnosis is coming to know that which you believe?

That makes sense. I like that.

Yes, and no. I'm saying that when we believe something, by definition that something is something we have not experienced for ourselves. Simplest example would be Deity. When I say, "I believe in God.", I am admitting that I have not experienced God, I can only "believe" that God exists.

But if I have a "God experience", even if I cannot define or explain it, I have Gnosis of God, even if that Gnosis is microscopic. (microcosmic?)

That, to me is greater, more valuable that simply a belief, which is empty and often misleading.

[George the 3rd]

To paraphrase Masonic Ritual:

"Faith may be lost in sight; Hope ends in fruition; but "Gnosis" extends beyond the grave, through the boundless realms of eternity."

[Frater G]

Oct 14, 2009 20:26:10 GMT -5 George the 3rd said:

True...sometimes though one can find what one seeks by just being open. Gnosis wouldn't be Gnosis if one already "knew"....wouldn't you say?

Actually, Gnosis may merely be accepting/recognizing what everyone knows, (instinctively?) but through "education", cultural pressures and lack of self confidence, we come to "believe" instead.

I see....so reflecting on as above so below one can see the truth of the Deity within...like inborn knowledge..instinct.

Hah!...we're dormant.. ;D