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Post by morningstar on Mar 20, 2008 17:45:18 GMT -5
In the Halls where the mirrors can see A reflection of my immortality – At what it is to “be” I’m alone.
So I walk through the open door To a place I’ve been and never been before It leaves me wanting more – I’m in need.
In another place in space and time Long before the ignorance of spoken rhyme I heard the answers chime I was born.
I reached out with my mind Just to see what knowledge I might finally find And found that I was blind – I began to search.
So here I am on this desert plane Seeking questions to the answers –once again, Just like I did back then… I catch a glimpse.
It’s so strange what my eyes can’t see Staring through the depths of mediocrity – To a place that sets me free – I begin to fly.
There’s a place just beyond our minds It’s the place that beacons and we all must find It is the tie that binds - I am complete.
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Post by George the 3rd on Mar 21, 2008 11:15:55 GMT -5
Excellent!
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Post by George the 3rd on Mar 21, 2008 11:18:40 GMT -5
A POEM (lovely as a me)
I fear that I shall never see My life attain that symmetry Of mind and body and of soul Into an integrated Whole.
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Post by morningstar on Nov 22, 2009 10:30:41 GMT -5
A POEM(lovely as a me) I fear that I shall never see My life attain that symmetry Of mind and body and of soul Into an integrated Whole.
Is it fear then that holds us back from realizing our true potential...from truly understanding our connection to our own selves and to the eternal... It has been said that there are only two real emotions...love and fear...that everything stems from these. They are the primary colours of emotion. Examples on a simplistic level...war/anger/violence stem from fear...a primal need to protect what we are/have...to dominate gives a false sense of strength. Joy/empathy/acceptance stem from love. Of course there are more complex variations of this...we often fear that which we cannot fully understand... The dark and the light...the scales of balance?
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Post by George the 3rd on Nov 23, 2009 10:27:17 GMT -5
The "fear" expressed stems from the fear that my belief in the actual existence of "body, mind & soul" as I conceive it is not based in reality but rather a fanciful illusion/delusion contrived to lessen the pain of possibly ultimately discovering that life is nothing more than a physical existence.
This does not mean that I do not have faith in that belief, but after all if faith could be proved scientifically, it would cease to be faith.
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Post by morningstar on Nov 24, 2009 7:42:08 GMT -5
Very eloquently put.
Yes - one of the fears we all share at one time or another over the course of our lifetimes. It pops into one's mind occasionally. It's a fear that I once obsessed over, actually.
So then...faith is based in love? ... and we can't prove or disprove the existence of love either? Or can we?
Faith does manifest itself into our reality. As an analogy, the ironworkers pop into my mind here...they are able to walk a plank hundreds of feet above the earth...it's a plank that everyone could walk if it were positioned a couple of feet above the earth...but raise it higher and most of us cannot. It's the same plank - so what stops us? Is it faith? In that case, perhaps it is faith in our own selves...or the faith to conquer the fear?
I wonder then - is faith in our own selves also faith in something greater to which we are connected - even when the full realization isn't there at the time?
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Post by Frater G on Nov 24, 2009 12:37:45 GMT -5
The "fear" expressed stems from the fear that my belief in the actual existence of "body, mind & soul" as I conceive it is not based in reality but rather a fanciful illusion/delusion contrived to lessen the pain of possibly ultimately discovering that life is nothing more than a physical existence. This does not mean that I do not have faith in that belief, but after all if faith could be proved scientifically, it would cease to be faith. The fear you speak of is experienced by anyone who decides to search for purpose. Although the possibility of just a mere physical existence can motivate an individual to accomplish as much as possible because time then becomes a factor. What defines the mere physical, or who? As far as science...the Shaman experiences the other side routinely. It's been a repeatable experiment spanning over 30,000 years. Faith does manifest itself into our reality. I believe it is belief that manifests.
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Post by morningstar on Nov 24, 2009 18:20:05 GMT -5
I believe it is belief that manifests. So you have faith in the belief that belief manifests? (I'm really not as confused as I seem...?? am I? lol)
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Post by Frater G on Nov 24, 2009 20:30:12 GMT -5
I believe it is belief that manifests. So you have faith in the belief that belief manifests? (I'm really not as confused as I seem...?? am I? lol) Um.....well since you phrased it that way....Yes! ;D
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Post by morningstar on Nov 25, 2009 6:41:56 GMT -5
BTW...the confused reference was directed at myself... Isn't it strange - that there are moments of extreme clarity - times when one's belief and faith come easy - times when one can "see" so clearly beyond that illusion of daily life/time etc... Even though the signs are so strong - and uncanny things happen that should solidify our understanding - still there is doubt. I disappoint my self at times...it does seem that there are multiple parts to each of us...again the "mind, body and spirit" relationship we speak of. So the true masters have come to a place where all three reside in harmony?
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Post by vajramukti on Dec 4, 2009 0:36:27 GMT -5
BTW...the confused reference was directed at myself... Isn't it strange - that there are moments of extreme clarity - times when one's belief and faith come easy - times when one can "see" so clearly beyond that illusion of daily life/time etc... Even though the signs are so strong - and uncanny things happen that should solidify our understanding - still there is doubt. I disappoint my self at times...it does seem that there are multiple parts to each of us...again the "mind, body and spirit" relationship we speak of. So the true masters have come to a place where all three reside in harmony? Some of them, yes. Most don't stay in that place, but are able to get there more often than the rest of us.
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