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Post by morningstar on Dec 3, 2009 19:56:22 GMT -5
Last night I had a very symbolic dream. I was in my place of employment. I was in the CEO's office - and on the desk I found a new set of calendars...they caught my eye, and I wondered who they were intended for. On the cover, which was purple, was the pyramid/eye symbol - and directly below this was one word..."Helonism". Without getting into the actual dynamics of my workplace, I can say that things have been in a state of upheaval and much needed postive change as of late. When I awoke I wrote this name down and looked it up later. The closest word is Hellenism, however I found some poetic and lyrical references using the spelling Helonism...(Iron Maiden being one of them). I'm hoping one of you can elaborate on Helonism for me and perhaps what the connection might be to free masonry? I am not very well versed on either. It may help to shed light on the symbology of this dream. I feel this is of some importance to me. Thanks.  M |
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Post by Frater G on Dec 3, 2009 22:58:07 GMT -5
Last night I had a very symbolic dream. I was in my place of employment. I was in the CEO's office - and on the desk I found a new set of calendars...they caught my eye, and I wondered who they were intended for. On the cover, which was purple, was the pyramid/eye symbol - and directly below this was one word..."Helonism". Without getting into the actual dynamics of my workplace, I can say that things have been in a state of upheaval and much needed postive change as of late. When I awoke I wrote this name down and looked it up later. The closest word is Hellenism, however I found some poetic and lyrical references using the spelling Helonism...(Iron Maiden being one of them). I'm hoping one of you can elaborate on Helonism for me and perhaps what the connection might be to free masonry? I am not very well versed on either. It may help to shed light on the symbology of this dream. I feel this is of some importance to me. Thanks. M How fascinating, you do have dream vision.  Interesting that this term was scripted by Iron Maiden. They were one of the first lyrically deep metal bands to emerge. I'm very familiar with the song Alexander the Great... A Phrygian King had bound a chariot yoke,
And Alexander cut the "Gordian knot",
And legend said that who untied the knot,
He would become the master of Asia.
Helonism he spread far and wide,
The Macedonian learned mind,
Their culture was a western way of life,
He paved the way for Christianity.I always assumed that particular word had to do with cleansing of a sort. I couldn't find an exact definition BUT... I found this link.  www.helon.info/home.htmlThe link above has many unavailable pages but the link below actually came up first which amazed me...because just today I was thinking about the biblical verse stating that the son will inherit the sins of the father...and maybe I myself have broken a chain of some sort by fathering only daughters which used to leave me with a sense of incompleteness. Crazy thinking I know.... but now somewhat pertinent because of this. www.helon.info/curses.html Helon was a leader of the tribe of Zebulon....chosen by God according to biblical writings. |
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Post by vajramukti on Dec 4, 2009 0:45:26 GMT -5
A helon is a sort of "sub-quark" in particle and quantum physics. Also known as a preon. Theoretical Preon Physics (which could be called "Helonism") is devoted to the study of whether existence is limited only to that which is observed.
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Post by morningstar on Dec 4, 2009 8:08:28 GMT -5
Thank you! I was really hoping to discuss this with all of you. I appreciate any info/connections you may come across. I have had other dreams in the past in which words or information were presented that I have no conscious knowledge of - and yet I was able to confirm the image and information later. It's perplexing...and I realize some would say that I must have seen this word somewhere...yet, "Helonism" is not a common word and seems to be very hard to find detailed information on. It is not a word I have any present knowledge of. I'm definitely in a quandary over this one.  Yet because this came to me subconsciously, it must have some current relevance. I am still very interested to know if there could be any connection between Helonism and freemasonry - since the symbol and the word were the only things on the cover of this calendar...also, the colour purple - what significance it might play in this. It was a very deep purple. I know there is a message here...obviously I am meant to seek it out?  |
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Post by morningstar on Dec 9, 2009 10:36:45 GMT -5
Still trying to find some detailed information...or connections here. Seems limited. The only known biblical reference to Helon is in Numbers - stating only that he was the father of Eliab who led the tribe of Zebulun. I did find this crest pertaining to the Tribe of Zebulun. Anyone wish to have a hand at deciphering the text? www.ensignmessage.com/images/printedword2.jpg |
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Post by Frater G on Dec 10, 2009 21:38:40 GMT -5
I can't read the text.
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Post by elijah on Dec 11, 2009 13:19:31 GMT -5
SAEVIS * TRANQILLUS * IN * LINDUS * VIGILANTE * DEO * CONFIDENTES
IN ALL DRUC EN ROU
BUET M(A)LKANDER DE HANT
IN ALLES ZIET GETROU
GODS KERK ENT VADERLANT
I do not know what it means. Get Goldfish or Hanny
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Post by Frater G on Dec 12, 2009 2:20:33 GMT -5
A helon is a sort of "sub-quark" in particle and quantum physics. Also known as a preon. Theoretical Preon Physics (which could be called "Helonism") is devoted to the study of whether existence is limited only to that which is observed. So what is real reality? Intention or reflection? |
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Post by elijah on Dec 12, 2009 8:47:39 GMT -5
"Helon" is meant for, or is a reference to the Earl of Feversham from "Absalom and Achitophel" a satire by Dryden
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Post by vajramukti on Dec 13, 2009 1:01:20 GMT -5
SAEVIS * TRANQILLUS * IN * LINDUS * VIGILANTE * DEO * CONFIDENTES IN ALL DRUC EN ROU BUET M(A)LKANDER DE HANT IN ALLES ZIET GETROU GODS KERK ENT VADERLANT I do not know what it means. Get Goldfish or Hanny These are mottos of William of Orange. Saevis tranquillus in undis - Calm amid the turbulent (raging) ones. Vigilate deo confidentes - Watchful, relying upon God. In alles druc en rou Biet Malkander de hant. In alles zijt getrou Gods kerk en t vaderlant "All raw and Druce beet one another hant In every art getrou God's church and it vaderlant" |
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Post by morningstar on Dec 13, 2009 9:11:28 GMT -5
G wrote: So what is real reality? Intention or reflection? Is it not what we "believe" it to be? Perhaps if viewed from a philisophical angle... If we're speaking strictly scientific...it could not be limited to one thing...for it is made up of all things...and it's existence is based upon the reflective... |
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Post by elijah on Dec 13, 2009 12:24:57 GMT -5
G wrote: So what is real reality? Intention or reflection? Morningstar wrote: Is it not what we "believe" it to be? Perhaps if viewed from a philisophical angle... If we're speaking strictly scientific...it could not be limited to one thing...for it is made up of all things...and it's existence is based upon the reflective...Vajramukti wrote: A helon is a sort of "sub-quark" in particle and quantum physics. Also known as a preon. Theoretical Preon Physics (which could be called "Helonism") is devoted to the study of whether existence is limited only to that which is observed.Intentions, reflections, theoretical scientific observations or any thing which is pondered upon or scruitinized, by their very existence then becomes subtle realities. A helon, might in that respect, be a particle of thought or perception which is a precursor to an eventual more material actuality. |
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Post by Frater G on Dec 13, 2009 15:33:52 GMT -5
I was watching a special with Dr. Michio Kaku and he was talking about sub atomic particles and in some instances particles are formed (or appear to be) in two places at the same time. One observed at one perspective and another from another perspective. The same particle in two different places depending on the observers point of perspective. This brings up the question of the nature of reality when it pertains to the observer. It has been said that the eye single cannot see itself. Does light exist without the confirmation of reflection? Where does self reflection reside? What makes up first matter? |
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Post by elijah on Dec 14, 2009 4:34:04 GMT -5
It's a well known and perplexing actuality that elementary quantum particles can indeed exist "in two different places depending on the observer's point of perspective". That's the gravity of the matter. There is a fine line between physics and metaphysics, and very often the two converge giving rise to the quandary which particle and theoretical physicists have found very hard to reconcile without compromising their professional status by appearing to have lost the scientific plot. However, it appears that as we progress into the 21st century, the distance between the medieval-thinking mainstream religions and physics/metaphysics is becoming wider, (with the construction and understanding of the results of experiments undertaken in the LHC, Fermi etc), that the "witchcraft" of particle physics is finally being allowed to progress. Even so, there is a tremendous amount of infantile concern about the safely of quantum physics which is rather amusing, because the worst that can happen is death(s) and THAT will happen to everyone willy-nilly. They can't make a black hole in the lab and if they did it might be a good thing, because IMO it is long overdue just desserts. Shunt the politicians, lawyers and priests off first. ;D ;D (....oh, and land developers and estate agents too). Just imagine the space that would be freed-up! Take a few fancy cars off the road and clear some air space. Sublime thought! BANKERS and Insurance fools too. whew! Anyway that is a personal and belated rant. I think it is merely a matter of letting your mind slip between the two: physics and metaphysics. "Where does self reflection reside?" and "What makes up first matter?" I think that first matter comes first that maybe being the particle of consciousness which in turn might be the "God Particle" or at least it definitely becomes something of the sort when the ability to reflect is manifested. Reality is perceived as an individual experience -- rather like the unique variations in the perceptions of the 5 common senses. I seem to understand that the single eye can see itself by inversion or not looking. (I recall something of this in the teachings of Carlos Castaneda's Don Juan, but I can't remember where or in which book). Suffice to say that it is perfectly logical to look without seeing and to see without looking. This is a rather individual notion of understanding quantum -- that by seeing with the empty eye, reality becomes evident. Actuality/reality is therefore discerned as an individual experience. "Does light exist without the confirmation of reflection?" Light IS with the existence of sophistication of the entity which perceives or needs light for subsistence and survival. I don't know. |
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Post by elijah on Dec 15, 2009 5:57:58 GMT -5
Just a quick further thought before I forget.  I wonder where one goes during meditation. Certainly the absolute experience of naught occurs, and being a very devoted follower of particle physics and the sublimity of nothingness, it did cross my mind that this might be a state of Helonism. In the Craft there are many things that one cannot discuss away from the confines of the Lodge, and old is Freemasonry, with centuries of antiquated ritual and form which are kind of being understood and verbalised only now, so the word Helonism might have encapsulated nothingness. Any thoughts? |
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Yet because this came to me subconsciously, it must have some current relevance.
